Frimpong should either apologise or be released by the club
July 16, 2012
Yesterday Emmanuel Frimpong dug himself into some trouble on his Twitter page. After posting a fairly innocuous tweet which read: ‘if you going church today Pray For me Giving today A Miss’ he received a nasty and unnecessary response from a Spurs fan which read: ‘I prayed you break your arms and legs’.
Not very pleasant I’m sure we’d all agree. A disgusting thing to wish on anyone, let alone a player whose career could well be in the balance as he recovers from another serious injury. Unfortunately Frimpong rose to the bait and chose to retweet the message along with a response of his own reading simply ‘@ Yid Scum’.
It always surprises me when I have to explain this but for the avoidance of any confusion I’ll do it anyway. The term ‘Yid’ is an extremely offensive racial epithet used to describe Jewish people. For the sake of reference I’d say it’s up there with the ‘N’ word. For decades it’s also been used by certain idiots to denigrate Spurs fans due to their relatively wide level of Jewish support (which by the way is in actual fact no wider than it is at Arsenal).
As a response to this, in more recent years, certain sections of the Spurs fanbase have attempted to ‘reclaim’ the word, referring to themselves as the ‘Yid Army’. I’m not going to get into the rights and wrongs of this particular move as we’d be here all day and frankly it’s not relevant to this discussion. The fact is that Emmanuel Frimpong should not be using the term ‘Yid’ to describe anyone.
I’m prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Thanks to the ‘reclamation’ of the word by Spurs fans a lot of people are unaware of its provenance and no doubt just assume it to be a funny football nickname. Maybe that’s the case with Frimpong. But he removed the tweet from his site pretty sharpish yesterday so I can only assume that if he didn’t already know, he does now.
But removing the tweet is not enough I’m afraid. Frimpong needs to come out and make an apology. Even if it’s along the lines of ‘I didn’t realise what the word meant, I should never have used it’. The man is an Arsenal player, he’s a representative of the club and it’s just not acceptable for a representative of Arsenal to be throwing racial insults .
We wouldn’t accept language like that if it came out of the mouth of John Terry so you better be sure we shouldn’t accept it when it comes from one of our own. Frimpong is popular with Arsenal fans and for good reason. His exuberance and spirit both on and off the pitch is something we haven’t seen a lot of amongst the squad in recent years. It’s exciting to see a bit of passion and at times it maybe even blinds fans to other weaknesses in his game. We shouldn’t let it blind us to mistakes off the pitch too.
The club need to be on top of this. There have been a number of more minor transgressions by our players on Twitter in the last couple of years and the club appear prepared to let them go. They don’t seem entirely on top of the PR opportunities and pitfalls of the social media age. But they need to sharpen up. Arsenal are a club built on foundations of proper behaviour and moral leadership. There’s a reason why we talk about the importance of doing things ‘the Arsenal way’. We can’t allow that reputation built over so many years to be sullied by a lack of understanding of the power of Twitter.
If he’s not already planning an apology off his own back I expect the club to give him a little shove today. If they provide that shove and an apology is still not forthcoming then I hate to say it but I think we have a responsibility to let the player go. It’s that serious and it’s that simple.
I hope it doesn’t come to that. I hope that Emmanuel Frimpong realises that he reacted in an unprofessional way to an idiot fan and used a word that he didn’t entirely understand the meaning of. And I hope that he does the grown up thing and apologises for what I’m sure was just a mistake.
And then we can all get on with the business of supporting his undoubted talent and exuberance.
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Stop with this stupid tittles! Be released by the club my ass, why the f*ck would I lose such a passionate player for Sp*rs? Acting like a girl on her period toughen up.
Don’t be ridiculous. You don’t release a player from the club because he used a word he shouldn’t have on Twitter. The punishment must fit the crime. “It’s that serious” is a little bit of mischievous nonsense from your blog.
highlighting this doesnt help
wtf y shud he b released good on him f*ck the spuds
Dear Marbles
It is a shame that fans use tweeting / poison penning in anonimity to be so offensive. On behalf od all decent Spurs fans… we wish Frim well and back in action soon. (But not too good against us please)
Are you serious… “we have a responsibility to let the player go”; he is not the brightest kid on the block (you only have to see the boys spelling), so to infer he was being diliberately/knowingly racist…. ignorant perhaps, but give it a break !!!
Secondly, “doing it the arsenal way” went a long while ago (unfortunately)…. you sir are a throwback to (better and) more chivalrous times !!!!!!
A moment of class from the Gooners – until you get to the unmoderated comments, of course.
ur an idiot!! he clearly refering to him as spurs scum not jewish scum!! wow talk bout trying to make a name for urself with ur dramatic journalism…… pathetic!!
surprisingly enough it may be a racist slur, but most spurs fans call themselves yids. My sister-in-law and all her friends who are spurs fans actually decent people use yid in their twitter account user names and do not care about the racial connotations. frimpong had every right to respond to such a vile comment and a person who is sick enough to say such a thing about another person doesn’t deserve the right not to be abused back. All that should happen to frimpong is a fine for inappropriate comments on a public domain.
I am a Spurs fan, and I just want to say how much I abore the tweet aimed at Frimpong from one of our supporters.
I agree the way Frimpong reacted was not ideal, and an apology should be forthcoming.
But that is not really why Im commenting.
I really appreciate your article, it is refreshing that fans stand up for club morals as opposed to attacking the original offender.
On another note…
Looking forward to pipping you guys this season!
I just read yesterday’s post. Still can’t get over the comments. Self-righteous people love to feel some indignation. It doesn’t normally matter about the subject. As long as you’re overly opinionated and judgemental about a view you’ve attributed to someone else, it’s all good. I hate people.
Maybe the above has coloured my reading but I haven’t taken this with the same strength as you. I grew up in a predominantly Jewish area of North London, with plenty of spudders, and ‘yid’ was always a tottenham comment – even for the gentiles. Much in the same way that I’m a ‘gooner’.
I’m pretty sure Frimmer’s agent/PR had a word about the origins of the term. I mean you’re right to say about the reclamation and accepting his ignorance, but maybe for a younger generation when a word is so commonly associated with something else, the offensive nature of it can loose meaning over time…. if we left these things, maybe an entire generation would grow up knowing the word only as a tottenham fan. Public apologies/outcry only reinforce it as a derogatory term and it again potentially becomes a weapon.
Then again I can’t speak for the Jewish peoples, but just a thought about what I grew up with…
I am a Jew and the term Yid does not necessarily have to be offensive. it depends on how it is said and in what context. It is true that they have ‘reclaimed’ this word and I guess in principle there is nothing wrong with that and I know for sure that my jewish sp*rs friends take pride in being a ‘yid’.
I guess you could say it is no different to an sp*rs player/fan calling an arsenal fan ‘gooner scum’. for those who dont understand the origins of the word, yid and gooner have the same meaning just for two different clubs.
i am sure that his tweet was more down to naivety and lack of understanding as to what yid means than anything malicious.
Spurs fan here. I have no love for Frimpong, he frequently comes across like a right twat.
However, in this instance I think the article above is a little harsh. Spurs fans call themselves Yids, so it’s probably fair to say that he’s just relating to that.
It was a silly thing to say, and he should be told that it’s not acceptable to say that, but in this instance he’s just a naive kid.
Rap on the wrists, not more – in my humble opinion. Witch hunt not needed.
@ Mark and others – I agree. As I say in the article I’m sure the tweet was down to naivety rather than malice. Which is why I think a simple apology is all that is necessary.
Regardless of the intention the club are supposedly trying to stamp this language out on the terraces. Surely that applies to the players too.
Oh yeah, just want to say that the idiot who said “I pray for you to break your legs” is far more of an idiot than Frimpong. What a dick, who says that?
I think this piece is completely ridiculous, the most important thing is the term Yid is used by the tottenham fan base as a boast and not as anything offensive!
There are many other words that can be used in the same way such as the N word you were pointing to in your piece, if it is described by the members of a race to one another it is completely exceptable but if individuals from separate races use it, it is seen as derogatory.
I believe this should be just let go as it is football banter and to be completely honest he probably made the spurs fans day by reacting.
To say he should be released is absolutely ridiculous and to be punished is harsh as in all honesty he has only replied in a unprofessional manor but was only defending himself.
I think, sir or madam that you may have only recently started to follow “The Arsenal” . My grandfather, my father, and myself (52 years young) are Arsenal supporters not idiots and have always known the thug element at Spurs as the YIDS, maybe you are a little sensitive, it is after all a name they called themselves, Goon, ” a hireling thug used to intimidate, an oaf, a fool ” more self deprecating humour or are you a little too P C ? J
Hang your head in shame Noddy.
what a pathetic article !!!! good on Frimpong at least he is a player showing some passion for the club and spreading the hate of that two bob club down the seven sisters road who are FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW
Good on you Frimpong EIE
Frankly I’m quite surprised at this response. Even if you completely take away the racial element of what he said a professional footballer should not be going around throwing insults at the opposition fans or any fans. The comment that he was reacting to was idiotic and childish but if you’re going to accept the lavish riches that a career as a professional footballer brings I’m afraid you have to rise above that sort of crap and not sink to their level.
As for going as far as labelling anyone as ‘Yid Scum’ I’m staggered that people think that’s right or acceptable and doesn’t warrant an apology.
As I said in the article, if John Terry had said this we’d be all over it.
man up and grow a set of marble halls.he got stick and he gave it back.
A touch of class but I fear that you will be shouted down by the masses who have not been educated in the ways of common decency.
Unfortunately, we Spurs’ fans have many of the same ilk on the blog-boards.
Personally, as a Spurs fan of 58 years I find our own supporters use of the “Yid” word offensive whatever the quoted reasons for using it and I am not Jewish.
Unfortunately, moronic tribalism has replaced intelligence in all walks of life, but can best be seen on the Internet.
As far as Frimpong is concerned, I can understand his response, and the so-called Spurs supporter should also apologise for his disgusting tweet.
I am never, ever, reading this blog again. Get a grip, you hit-mongering moron.
We need people like Rob. Good response mate, it taught me a thing or two.
This time, no chance ( piping )
You sack the right man for the job and hired the wrong one!!!!
Enjoy loosing more games, this time around!
As a spurs fan – I hate to say that I dont really blame Frimpong for what he said. Frimpong didnt go out of his way to provoke this “fan” and ended up getting abused! We all call ourselves yids – weather thats right or wrong. No matter who you support – if you wish somone to break there leg then your a twat.
Your not a gooner. Your an undercover member of the yid army. Or your a sensitive Jew that happens to support arsenal. Chillax mate. Don’t hate on frimpong, long live the true red and white army.
So John Terry calls a guy, a fellow professional footballer, a potential england team mate, a brother to a team mate; a fu****g bla*k cu*t and Chelsea fans support him to the day he was acquitted(wrongly Imho)!
Frimpong calls a sc*m supporter Yid and he should be thrown out? Yid, a word that these sc*ms call themselves without feeling offended!
How stupid are you? What kind of a fan are you? Why does someone like you even waste your time writing about The Arsenal?
MarbleHalls, you have lost your marbles this time!
What a load of tripe this article is…. You deserve to be Frimponged!! I happen to love the way Frimpong and Wilshire give it to our rivals…. and I’m pretty sure he didn’t mean it as a racist slur!! Two of my mates are part of the Tottenham lot and they constantly call themselves the Yid army or Yids…. So please releasing one of our most passionate players for this reason is obsurd…. Are you Tottenham in disguise? You sir…. need to jog on!!!
I’m waiting for the call for the Spurs fan to apologise. Or does the one that started it all get away scot free?
I agree on the point on the ‘yid’, not the ‘scum’.
Does anybody actually care what Frimpong says anyway? Average player at a fading club.
RELEASED!!??you are in way over your head here..If they call themselves yids what is to Stop an Inexpirienced Frimpong from Calling them that
If anythng this will Strengthen Frimpong’s Position with the Fans
please everyone watch this.
http://www.theholocaustexplained.org/ks3/anti-semitism/prejudice-and-anti-semitism/the-y-word/
Unbelievable rubbish.
I am South African and have been referred to as a Jaapie for as long as I can remember that term – derived from “Yes, Ape” is no longer viewed as offensive.
Yid is actually a speaker of Yiddish – how is that more or less offensive than Scouser for example or Gooner come to that.
Grow up
APOLOGISE 4 WHAT?
You must have nothing to write abt.
You must have nothing to write about, obviously your Jewish but come he got insulted first
What a ridiculous blog. My brother is a Spuds fan and refers to himself as a ‘Yid’ or a ‘Yiddo’ as do many of my Spud friends. It’s the over sensitive politically correct people like yourself that makes this bigger than Ben Hur when those ‘affected’ don’t really give a damn!
“The term ‘Yid’ is an extremely offensive racial epithet used to describe Jewish people. For the sake of reference I’d say it’s up there with the ‘N’ word.”
Wrong. From the Wikipedia article on the term:
‘In Yiddish, the word “Yid” Yiddish: ייד is neutral or even complimentary, and in Ashkenazi Yiddish-speaking circles it is frequently used to mean simply “fellow,” “chap,” “buddy,” “mate,” etc., with no expressed emphasis on Jewishness.’
Please, check your facts in future before posting such inflammatory and uninformed headlines.
A good friend of mine was grassed by a so called arsenal supporter for saying something very similar. he was fined £500 ordered to pay all the court costs. he was banned by the club had his season ticket taken away and now has a criminal record that caused him to lose his £60k a year job and has been unable to find employment since. he has now been unemployed for 3 years. whilst his ban is now up he.can no longer afford to follow arsenal the club he has followed for more than 30 years. it seems there is a rule for some and a rule for others. As for this business regarding twitter the club need to ban all players from making any comments related to football on their accounts not just twittdr but all social networking sites. This is far worse than having a fiver on your mate to score a goal in a match and it needs to be addressed.
the writer is a spurs fan…lol
By worse i mean you wont end up in court for having a fiver on your mate at the.bookies. but you will end up in court if someone complains about the words you have.used.
In fact I think I shall never bother to read a Marble Halls blog again, absolute crap!!
As far as I can tell the debate here seems to come down to the question of whether people consider the ‘Y’ word an offensive term. Most people commenting here obviously don’t think it is. Fair enough I suppose. If it’s not offensive to you its not offensive to you. But for the sake of balance I would point out that the FA believe it’s an offensive term. As does the Kick Racism Out of Football campaign. As does Arsenal Football Club. As does our own Kieran Gibbs who you can see explain why in the following video. http://www.kickitout.org/1307.php/
To all those who say Totts use the word themselves: black people tend sometimes to call one another “nigger.” Does it mean the term is a generally acceptable description of a black person? No, it’s a denigrating term with a long and hateful history. True, such terms are reclaimed, but they have to be used with utmost caution and improper use should be met with responsible reaction. I’m also quite sure the intent was not malicious, and I’m sure most of you who are now responding to Marble’s point of view so forcefully simply don’t realize it’s wrong to call people such names. So, if you’re still calling your loved ones “b*tch,” “m*therf*cker” and other such lovely terms of endearment, the problem is entirely yours.
It’s also a big disappointment to see Frimpong doing a Nasri on twitter. If we think Nasri’s a classless tw*t, we’d better shown what we mean by “class.” Sadly, Frimpong still needs to learn that lesson… Also, the point was not that Frimpong should be released and that’s it, but rather that he should apologize, and failing that, be punished, and the greatest possible punishments for him now would be dropping out completely (following a financial sanction, of course). Most of you seem not to have read the piece. And they say class is permanent…
It is interesting to note that not one single person has disagreed with his use of the word “scum” to describe sp*rs fans. So on that, we can all agree COYG
@marble halls.
I agree with you. An apology is definitely needed. I don’t quite follow the logic from some people on this site. Saying that Spurs call themselves Yids does not make it acceptable for other people to.
If you go to some black communities they will call themselves and their friends ‘Nigger’. However, that doesn’t mean it is OK for everybody to refer to black people by this derogatory term.
The author wants to get out more.
Many Arsenal fans call themselves Gooners. For this reason, rival fans also refer to them as Gooners.
Spurs Fans call themselves the YID ARMY. In the context Frimpong used the word, it was a shortened version of …. “Yid Army Scum” … the ‘Army’ part was dropped. It is almost that simple, but not quite.
Besides that not being the reason why most Spurs fans adopted the term Yid Army – there is ZERO connection with RACISM since “Jewish” is not a race … it’s a religion.
Touched a nerve did he? For all you know he probably doesn’t understand the connotations. Highly unlikely he meant it in an anti-semitic way.
I don’t agree footballers should be banned from Twitter. They have just as much right to their say as anybody. Their tweets just need to be vetted before being posted. Maybe their agents should do it, they seem to do little else. That should prevent unfortunate incidents like this.
Oh, zdzis. I got distracted for a while and you beat me to it! More eloquently put than mine also.
The author of this should either, get a life, or never, ever write something about Arsenal again.
i don’t know why you are exagerating this tweet so much. I think you are zionist the most idiot people in the world
Poor, silly article, whgereas Frimpong was stupid and ignorant to rely, the Spurs fan got what he deserved. I don’t use twitter, as far as I am concerned it is for self-centred people who want the world to know what they are thinking and doing, go and get some real friends people and stop trying to feed your ego’s.
Right or wrong, I am just fed up with the media looking for controversy on twitter. Twisting and making stories out of nothing.
Frimpong is ok in using the term yid. It originates from Yiddish – a language spoken by some peoples in Europe. The people use the term Yiddish to describe themselves sometimes. The abbreviation yid is not insulting or abusive. There is a distinct similarity to the term pomm or limey. Your reaction is uninformed and naieve.
Football has no reason to punish tweeters (while there are no defined rules). The foul and abusive language on the football pitch has been totally ignored by the corrupt officials. Several players and managers of UK origin use flowing foul language and nothing is done by the obviously corrupt FA. Patrick Vieira was red carded by an official for saying ‘you are indecisive’ and that was upheld by the FA for being derrogatory.
This journalist should apologies or be realesed for HIS idiotic suggestion….what a drama yid queen.. you wouldnt think he was a gooner… Get a grip man and stop being such a fruit cake! cant you see we need our best players, last thing we need is to let go of our young talent, specially one who has shown a promising future for the club!!! you sound like an undercover YID!!!
Marble Halls is probably a Yid and hence took such an offence
@Menace – Please see my comment above
4 what reason to leave the club? Just becouse of saying ‘yid scum’? U did well FRIMP. 4uck YID SCUM…
A couple of points here :-
1. professional footballers are a highly privileged bunch of people who play the game for the highest bidder. Any pretence of club loyalty disappeared years ago – they play for money, nothing more! Both Arsenal and Spurs have recent and current examples of this sad fact! I believe that ANY pro footballer who abuses a fellow player (racially or not) or stokes the fire of vicious tribalism should be severely censored – whichever club they play for.
2. Both Spurs and Arsenal football clubs benefit greatly from the existence of the other. Liverpool and Everton, Birmingham and Villa, the two Manchesters, and many other ‘local derby’ fixtures enhance the game. Truth is we should not be abusing each other as ‘scum’, but enjoying the local rivalry. If either club didn’t exist, the other would have to invent it. Look at Chelsea – they have no comparable local rival (apologies to Fulham) so they ‘invent’ rivalry with Spurs and Arsenal. I have supported Spurs for almost 60 years, and have fond memories of chatting with opposition supporters on the terraces. I truly miss that contact, and it enhance the match experience. I think that these websites are evidence of a desire to bring back such interaction between fans of different clubs, and it’s a great shame that, at present, they are monopolised by tribalistic idiots who can’t even spell.
Here’s a thought by a long term Spurs fan :- Arsenal are a great football club have had many brilliant players, and had fantastic achievements since I have supported Spurs. Arsene Wenger is possibly the best manager in the EPL (and I do include SAF in this). He has consistently delivered more than the owners (and fans?) deserve, with limited funds. Yes he is a bit myopic at times, but he has achieved miracles with limited resources for many years – the fact that they haven’t won a trophy for a few years is as unbelievable as Chelsea winning the Champions League!! We fans should enjoy the rivalry between the clubs, and shun the idiots who write the abuse.
“Stop with this stupid tittles! Be released by the club my ass, why the f*ck would I lose such a passionate player for Sp*rs? Acting like a girl on her period toughen up.”
Right on the money mate! Sorry, you want to dish out abuses, make sure you can take them.
I’ve had my fair share of name calling during my time, but you know what, a lot of those people are now my dear friends. It’s not always racist, a lot of time it’s just winding people up.
Yes, in a perfect world there shouldn’t be any naming calling. But in a perfect world rich people should go to jail for murder and tax evasion and stealing money from public and fxxking up the world economy !
Seems d spuds didn’t find it offensiv
What did frimpong mean by d ‘yid’ term?i don’t know…if he means anytn bad then he should apologise.but d spuds fan has to apologise first..
But to RELEASE HIM??SERIOUSLY??..when d lyks of tevez,balotell.anelka,joe barton are still playing football(NO WAY!!!)..
Or may be you just want a gud headline dax y
You sir are a clown. I won’t be clicking this pathetic blog ever again.
@Dan T: It’s OK, happens all the time
@Arsenal1Again: Please, use sources. Jews are an ethnic group. Because they are Semites, for ages they were assumed to belong to a race of people different than white, and sometimes still are. “Yid” is a racial slur because it is based on racial divisions, whether they were grounded in reality or not. It’s not an abbreviation, either.
Random House Dictionary says:
yid – slang: (disparaging and offensive) a Jew.
Whether Frimpong was referring to the “Yid Army” or not, it doesn’t matter in that context.
And again, for posterity, Marble only said Frimpong should be released if he doesn’t issue an apology. Which I’m quite sure he’ll be glad to do the moment he realizes he’s just acted like one of his least-respected ex-teammates.
Oh, and as for “scum”: if he had responded to the hateful tweet with “scum” instead of “yid scum,” the response would still be childish on his part, but at least not unknowingly hateful.
Many black people call themselves Nig**rs, including many high profile singers. But it is still unacceptable for a white person to use the term.
Just because spurs fans call themselves Yids does not mean it is acceptable for other people to use the term in as an insult.
An apology is enough. Getting sacked is very harsh.
Were you dropped on your head as a child? John Terry would’ve received a maximum £2,500 fine for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand on the pitch (had he of been found guilty) and your punishment for using a highly offensive word on Twitter is to be released by the club?
You’re a moron. Complete moron.
I suppose calling Liverpool fans “thieving dole- sponging t*ssers” is going to be called offensive next. Really, get a grip
While the term is offensive I find it beyond stupid that half the spuds on twitter complaining are calle @yiddette @john_the_yid Etc. Release him from the club? Are you joking?
If someone said thay prayed for me to break my arms or legs I would have said a lot worse.
Blogs writing articles like this deserve to be closed down.
What a pathetic whinging article.
No need to write this, its not even a story.
Woeful. concentrate on real arsenal issues not sensationalist nonsense. IF there is no news, simply do not write an article!!!
Very simple!
Geoff
Sanctimonious bollocks. Sick of anonymous wanky bloggers giving it the big un on the web.
Who are ya?
A hand wringing twat by the looks of it
Same old Arsenal bitter and twisted as usual, why do your players act like demented children instead of rising above idiots that goad you(yes that Spurs fan was out of order) no place for that sort of comment but Frimpong is representing your club so should use his brain before getting wound up, he needs to grow up.
Im Jewish and an Arsenal supporter and in no way was Frimpong’s comment antisemitic. The term is not derogatory and is in no way similar to calling a black person a N****r. Offensive, yes, but racist, no.
For those who missed this earlier:
As far as I can tell the debate here seems to come down to the question of whether people consider the ‘Y’ word an offensive term. Most people commenting here obviously don’t think it is. Fair enough I suppose. If it’s not offensive to you its not offensive to you. But for the sake of balance I would point out that the FA believe it is an offensive term. As does the Kick Racism Out of Football campaign. As does Arsenal Football Club. As does our own Kieran Gibbs who you can see explain why in the following video. http://www.kickitout.org/1307.php/
LOL. Marble loves stirring up a bit of drama these days.
I see your point. Completely unacceptable. Booting him out would be a bit OTT tho.
Propps for starting a mass debate still!
Spurs are complete morons, there is NO way they will beat Arsenal.
So writer of this article, go S***W yourself. Would like to see Frimpong break a few Spurs player legs though, starting with Bale!!!.
Not even I knew what yid meant so hows this passionate french player? My friends are all ‘yids’ and they call themselves that too. YID ARMY is what they cry from the terraces – is it ok to call themselves it but yet no one else can use the same term? Gunners can call themselves that but no one else can use that term. Pathetic if you ask me and this post especially on an arsenal site for a player that is finally showing some passion for his team and you want to get rid of him . Tittle tattle it really is and seems everything is being completely and utterly blown out of proportion with everything now.
john terry did a lot mo and that should warrant 4 a total ban from football…ARE U SERIOUS!!? a twitter row…..seriously????
glad a few spuds came on and straightened this out for you. frimps was certainly wrong but if making an excessive point about it was your plan for getting a few more hits you will lose more readers than you got today in the long-run. just saying. the KID made a mistake that he will likely deal with in the same manner as jack (shutting his account down). by and large a small blip in the bigger problems our club faces.
keep your eye on the ball man.
I always though Yid was short for Yiddish which is not a racist word. Hey ho he was not being racist in my opinion!
No body is unaware of the terms provenance you just have to stop being such a political correct t*** ! Words are but words and Frimpong clearly said it against spurs fans not jewish people.
Any other minor social infringements you want to create an article to moan about and waste everyones time? Perhaps you should call the police and have him arrested for racial hatred? Or maybe you just need to grow up!
While I normally love this blog using such an inflammatory title (even though slightly sarcastic) was a bit much. You don’t have to support our players in everything they do or say but you don’t have to try and add fuel to a fire like the regular media do.
Should he apologise? No, it was a term used by spurs fans to describe themselves. The context very clearly was nothing anti-semitic and even the spurs fans who have posted here have told you that.
I expect this kind of overly PC drivel from the regular media where you can’t even say the word ‘nigger’ (you were even afraid to write it, even though mentioning the N word is the exact same thing) or any other racial slang in any context at all without people throwing up their arms and calling you racist.
Ban me from your site for typing out that word all you want, cast me down for putting it there, am I racist for having it in my post? Really?
Go for it because unlike you I know context matters. What was the dogs name in Dambusters again? Yeah that’s right, we had to change that dog’s historical name in movies and books, and funnily enough none of my African or black friends can understand why. In fact neither they nor my Jewish friends can understand why white people think saying any racial term in every single context is so bad, you make the word more important than it should be.
Frimpong is young, realized his mistake and removed the tweet, so even our fans are going to hunt him down for every little slip he makes? Damn, no wonder Van Persie thinks other clubs are a lot more attractive.
Short answer – f*ck no..
released by the club for that? Are you an idiot or what pal? I suppose you got to keep writing something when it’s this quiet.. my advice – don’t!
I shall not be checking this site out again.
Ridiculous, Pathetic, Self hating nonsense.. the “hate” crime was the spurs fans praying that Frimpong would get injured…
FFS
Notice every news publication publishes the exact quote “@ yid scum”
but apparently John Terry called Ferdinand a “F**king Bl*** C***”
So obviously the media is ok with Yid more than the word Black…
Haha. Can’t believe what a raging debate you have sparked. I like it though, I like hearing different peoples opinions on things like this and the range of opinions is quite amazing.
Really can’t stand the people who come on and slag off the author though just because they don’t agree with his opinion. State your own opinion and tell us why you disagree. Don’t just come onto the site and call the author a tosser, a clown, an idiot, a moron and worst of all a spud! (I doubt he will be shedding a tear that you are now in a huff with the world and will no longer read a blog and listen to anyones opinion ever again).
If you disagree then disagree! Tell us why though!! Your comment adds nothing otherwise.
@Double 98
Haha – Did they really block out the word Black? As if Black is a word so outrageous that it must not be put into print?
Wouldn’t suprise me, the state our media is in tbh.
What a pathetic title and article. So grossly misleading. I agree name calling is off the mark. Use of twitter should maybe more carefully controlled by players and their managers. However, his first tweet gave us insight into how hard it must be to come back from not one but two serious injuries. The months and months of rehabilitation and strength training must be so frustrating. Ones mind boggles and what kind of a low life would respond to a request for prayer for Divine help, with that kind of an answer. Frimmers we love u bro and hope u make it back soon. Hang in there. We look forward to the day when u are a regular first team player and we get back on the trophy trail again. Gooners in SA
The following is from wikipedia. The word Yid ( /ˈjiːd/; Yiddish: ייִד)[clarification needed] is a slang Jewish ethnonym. Its usage may be controversial in modern English language. It is not usually considered offensive when pronounced /ˈjiːd/ (rhyming with deed), the way Yiddish speakers say it, though some may deem the word offensive nonetheless. When pronounced /ˈjɪd/ (rhyming with did), it can generally be perceived as a pejorative—and is used as a derogatory epithet by antisemites.[1]
Supporters of Tottenham Hotspur F.C. adopted the nickname “Yid” (or “Yiddo”) and often identify as “Yid Army”. Used as a badge of pride by the Jewish communities based near to the North London football club, such usage is not without controversy.
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are you tottenham in disguise!
so on a more serious note why is Chamakh still at the club
Are you mad? He has done nothing wrong and shouldn’t even apologize!
Whoever wrote that article is an idiot.
When the little boys down the Lane stop using it then we probably will. In the meantime leave the kid alone, he’s done nothing wrong. !!!!
This blog is poo. Not reading anymore after this one. The author(s) are complete try hards.
In your requirement is to cause a sh1t storm at least get it right.
Judaism is a religion, there is never, has never and will never be a race know as “Jewish”. The religion has it’s roots in Israel and so if you were to slag off Israelis then perhaps you’d have a point (even then it’s more xenophobia than racism as they are predominantly Caucasian). The crime of being Anti-Semitic is what you’re after.
So to recap, you’re an ignorant idiot who, while trying to defend the meek has balls it up and looks like a tit. While forcing your opinion on the world next time have a think about it,.. then don’t.
@marble you have managed to do the unthinkable – pull spurs and arsenal fans together and get them to agree on something; albeit contrary to your opinion. Dont mind the abuse. I hope they come back tomorrow and appreciate the balanced and humorous nature of your articles. One thing is for sure, yours is the best arsenal blog on planet earth!! People just dont like to see both sides of the coin.
Shitty article…shitty journalism…more like a waste of time and web space
Good on you mate!
Dear Marble Halls, I agree with the general sentiment of your post apart from the bit about it being serious enough to let the player go – I don’t think there’s any chance of Frimpong being let go over a deleted tweet, nor do I think there should be. An apology would be worthwhile though, if the club don’t make him say sorry then we have to ask ourselves why? And if that’s really good enough? Arsenal have let me down in this area a few times now.
The reaction you’ve received over this post is hilarious and I hope you’re seeing the funny side of it and not letting the less than polite responses effect you, this is a consistently funny and smart blog that doesn’t title links to manipulate traffic nor pick the low hanging fruit that most other blogs focus on.
Well, you certainly opened a can of worms today. Interesting to read the reactions of both sets of fans.
Jewish Arsenal Fan here. Yid is as offensive as the N word. When I was a kid I’d get called Yid and spat at in school. Black people have and have a right to reclaim the N word, as do Jews with the word Yid. Unfortunatly ‘Yid’ is mostly associated with Spurs but lets not try and be a bunch of John Terry’s here. Frimong knew what he was saying, and so do thousands of Arsenal fans who sing anti semitic songs when we play Spurs. Having been a Season ticket holder for a while, I’ve heard some shocking things. As a club we should do more to raise awairness, but, Spurs need to take the pole position here. It will be acceptable to use the word Yid
as long as their support uses it.
Context is everything. A word said in anger has a different meaning to words said in jest. I could call someone black and its clearly not offensive. I could call them a bastard if their parents were unmarried as its historically correct use of the word. But if i call someone a black bastard it becomes an insult. Frimpong is either stupid or insensitive…i suspect the former. So he should apologise. If he does….end of story. If he doesn’t……..take him to dacchau and let him see where anti~semitism leads. He doesn’t deserve to be sacked……as a spurs fan i want to see him playing for Arsenal because he is effing clueless.
As has been pointed out, it is about context. Just because you might use a word within your own group, does not mean others have the right.
I am sure that you have been called c**t by your mates and taken no offence. However if someone you had never met before called you that in the pub you would have a very different reaction.
The same is true of any other controversial word including those beginning with N or Y.
I’m 44yrs old and didn’t know what “Yid” slang meant before this “Storm In A Tea Cup” senario. I’m 100% sure the young Frimpong didn’t know the meaning either.
No racist intentions meant in any way. Let’s not get too carried away. This is a teenage boy hear…not John Terry who should know better.